If you were to talk to ten different dog trainers, you would likely get ten different approaches to solving the same exact problem. In the world of dog trainers, the joke goes; the only thing two dog trainers agree on is that the third doesn’t know what they are talking about. I as a trainer and behaviorist am very well aware of that. I am also very well aware that what works for one person may not work for the next. In this article I am going to address the use of aversive measures in training. Before I do that, please note that I got started in training as what I call now a pain trainer. In my mind, that is the trainer that solves behavior and training problems through the use of pain, fear, and/or intimidation. Since those days I have completely switched over to more scientifically backed relationship and reward based training measures with more positive results for a much broader community of people and of course their dogs.